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In movies and daydreams, winning changes everything. But in real life, it's not always so easy to pin down which ending is the happiest, or who deserves the glory. Dan Engber, senior editor for Slate Magazine, tells Producer Soren Wheeler about his self-defeating habit of always rooting for the underdog. Scott Allison and Nadav Goldschmied, who study this very propensity, say that there's such a deeply ingrained, strong bias for the underdog...that only 1 in 5 people admit to pulling for the top dog. Malcolm Gladwell, one of the rare top-doggers, stands behind siding with the favorites.

Then, Producer Pat Walters ends the show with the ultimate sports story--an against-all-odds tale set in a small town in Alabama...where a team of underdogs turned a high school basketball game into a victory that seemed to defy reality. David Smith, who watched the game from the bleachers as a teacher, sets the scene, while head coach Jay Sanders and assistant coach Vic Griggs help fill in the details. And Thomas Lake, who reported the story for Sports Illustrated, introduces us to the two players, Chad Cobb and Robert Collier, who made history. After the rest of their team fouled out, Chad and Robert pulled off an unbelievable finding a way for just two players to beat five rivals. 

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Further reading:

Malcolm Gladwell: Outliers: The Story of Success

Comments [13]

M P from Gettysburg, PA

Wait! I was a student at Fort Payne High in my junior and senior years (fall 1967-spring 1969) and I never heard about this game.

I'm sure if this had happened in today's electronically connected age, I wouldn't be able to get away from it.

I must have heard a rebroadcast, since I listened on Easter Sunday (April 1) 2018.

Apr. 06 2018 01:14 PM
Joyce Scott from Houston

No need to think this is the end, did these guys write, speak, blog, post, share, tweet, ... to writers agents, local, regional, national, Christian, News, Sports, television producers, anyone in this age of "We Need Your Story 24/7"

Unique Stories are always lost unless someone, some community, tells and over tells that story.

Time comes from giving up #RealityTV

Apr. 01 2018 12:03 AM

I know the last gentleman said he is happy, but I can't help but feel this should have had a different ending.

Aug. 14 2016 01:00 PM
K. Hutchison

I just heard a replay of this show on WAMU today, 8/13/16. I could understand less than half of what the people said in their indistinct southern accents. Is there a transcript?

Aug. 13 2016 05:23 PM
Tim Booth from Los Angeles

Made me cry, twice .

Oct. 13 2013 08:22 PM

I need to add another comment... the last story about the high school game that was 2 on 5 was incredible. Thanks and Keep up the terrific work!! :-)

Nov. 07 2011 08:12 PM

I can only agree with Jay (and even Dave from UM)... I'm listening to this old podcast and I heard exactly what they heard. Like Jay, I'm also a very proud MSU grad and it's kind of bothersome that someone didn't do their homework for this story and get the schools straight. Michigan State and University of Michigan ARE NOT THE SAME SCHOOL!!! Other than that, you have a great show! Go Green!

Nov. 07 2011 07:45 PM
Cristobal from Central Florida

I am also an infracaninophile! What a great story!

Sep. 26 2011 11:31 PM

is there any video of the "2 on 5" game out there? i would love to see it for myself.

Sep. 07 2011 05:44 PM
Paul from West Hartford, CT

I shazam'ed the music at the very end, and it came up as "The Silence" by Hammock

Sep. 05 2011 06:34 PM
Yoni Gordon

Does anyone know what music is being played over the very end of this story?

Aug. 30 2011 05:02 PM
Dave from NYC

Just finished listening to the whole Games podcast, and I really enjoyed it, one of the best. Just to chime in again, during the back & forth Michigan State/Butler montage, you referred to MSU as "Michigan" and played the University of Michigan fight song. As a UM grad, I do not mind, but I'm sure the grief from MSU wasn't so kind (See Jordon's comment on the main Games Podcast page - ).

Aug. 26 2011 08:22 AM
Jay from East Lansing, MI

Enjoying the podcast, however the anecdote about the NCAA tournament game between MSU and Butler, had the University of Michigan fight song in the background. As a proud graduate of Michigan State University, this is particularly painful. I won't stop listening to the podcast, but I'll be paying attention to the background music for the MSU fight song in a future podcast. :)
Go Green! Go White!

Aug. 24 2011 01:50 PM

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